mozape
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Post by mozape on Oct 2, 2007 2:23:43 GMT
Sorry if many of you hate rapidshare but I like it. C'mon guys, don't complain it's free! The Sounds are free! You just have to wait between the downloads. No spam, No registration, No pop ups,... You can always become a 48 hour premium user for 4,5 Euro so no more waiting. And no, I'm not working for rapidshare but most of other hosting solutions have bad download speeds (I download at 2 Mb/sec with cablemodem on rapidshare) and lots of pop ups. I hate this. Sorry. I hate to wait. And I don't like the posting limit on RapidShare. And as soon as I download part 7, I will post a link from MegaUpload for those like me who hate to wait [if you don't mind] for the fully assembled bundle you have prepared. No one should have to wait 2 hours before they can download each piece
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Post by jpvideo on Oct 2, 2007 2:25:16 GMT
I remember around 1986 Frank Zappa threatened to prosecute anyone who 'sampled' sounds from any of his recordings. He claimed that he always hired studio musicians to 'sample' sounds for his New England Digital Synclavier.
So what did I do when I read that?
I grabbed a couple of Zappa CD's and sampled sounds and even whole phrases on my Ensoniq Mirage. I put together a pretty convincing piece whereas all my peers thought it was really Zappa. hee hee hee.
It's crazy for anyone trying to 'copywrite' a sound. Moreover prosecutng anyone for the infingement thereof.
Although, Zappa's agent in New Your at the time (Elaine Peacock) threatened to sue me if I played any Zappa bootlegs during my annual Zappa marathon on WFDU-FM.
It's kind of funny it seems that most artists give their music away for free now and make up for it with live performances. I saw Jethro Tull tickets for a November New Jersey concert going for $450.00 each the other day. Holy smokes.
I would really like to taste some of these 'Freebies' but I'm so paranoid that I'll screw up the directories or worse (remember Feez). I noticed some anomolies with the Fusion after I loaded a couple of Hollow Sun Freepacks. If I don't understand 99% of what I'm doing I don't want to take the chance.
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Post by gwenhwyfaer on Oct 2, 2007 2:42:49 GMT
Ha! Got them! Thanks, Rob, for the suggestion about refreshing one's IP address - worked a treat (although my last ISP gave me a static IP address, which would have made things more awkward ) Now I just need something to play them on... And one more word on legal issues - of course, nothing arises until someone complains about something anyway, and the only people with standing to do that are the copyright holders for a particular sound, and they can only request the removal of their copyrighted material. So, given that you haven't done anything morally wrong, Joeri, don't worry about legality until someone actually complains to you - life's too short, and your creativity is too important. Oh - and if you're on Linux, ' cat Vstream_01.zip.00? > vstream01.zip' joins the files up perfectly.
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bazz
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Post by bazz on Oct 2, 2007 6:23:08 GMT
if cat works, then this should also work in windows/dos:
type vstream_01.zip.00? > vstream01.zip
I'm willing to host the files, I run a hosting company in my free time. But I'd rather prefer to set up a bittorrent tracker since that would increase the community feeling. Still there will be leechers but this way everybody contributes some of his/her bandwidth. Working with ratios would be a good thing, so that everybody who downloads 1 thing, should upload an equal amount to someone else.
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picaja
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Post by picaja on Oct 2, 2007 8:45:46 GMT
To mozape: "no one should wait..." This kind of comment really pisses me off. Sorry. I searched for a solution for linux, win and mac users and that's creating a uniform zip file and host it where you can dowload for free. I splitted the file in 50 Mb because of people with slower internet connections. But you can't do good for everybody can I? Do you know how much work and time it takes to sample 697 sounds, loop them (and listen to all different loops Seamless looper presents), normalize them, convert them, attach them to different keyboard zones and create patches, listen to the patches again and again and again and tune them? Zipping, splitting and uploading is the easiest part. I'll tell you 50 hours is no exaggeration. Download, wait and unzipping is the only thing YOU have to do. But like I said earlier you don't have to wait if you pay 4,5 Euro to rapidshare. Next time I will host the files on my site www.picaja.be and ask 4,5 Euro. Is that OK for you? I do have to pay for my domain and webspace you know. Or do you want me to upload the files on all existing hosting servers worldwide? My upload amount is limited and slow. For extra Gb's I do have to pay. And finally if you would have started your comment with: Thank you for.... Joeri
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bazz
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Post by bazz on Oct 2, 2007 9:03:42 GMT
Joeri don't mind that kind of comments. Thanks for the amazing amount of work you have put in this. I know it's a pain in the *ss to program on the fusion, and by looking at the comments it seems like you did a great job. I didn't have the chance yet to download and try them since my ISP gives a pretty much static IP.. * If you use rar to compress the files, the compression rate will be greater and your upload size will be smaller (try dommel.com for a better ISP, no upload limit ) * with both rar and zip formats you can specify to split the file in smaller chunks, this way no external program is needed to decompress the whole thing. * 7zip is a free, open source alternative to winzip and winrar, and can handle pretty much all compressed formats.
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picaja
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Post by picaja on Oct 2, 2007 9:15:15 GMT
Bazz, My first post were rar files because of the file size. But I didn't know Mac users cannot unrar, that's why afterwards I posted programs in zip and rar format. These are Steve's guidelines:And wherever you make them available, please use ZIP compression - it is a universal cross platform format unlike others (RAR for example). We look forward to seeing/hearing your contributions.I agree with Steve, zip is universal but sadly not the best compression tool if you want high compression: kgb archiver is, but it is so slow. kgbarchiver.net/
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bazz
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Post by bazz on Oct 2, 2007 9:55:21 GMT
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picaja
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Post by picaja on Oct 2, 2007 11:03:24 GMT
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Post by Hollow Sun on Oct 2, 2007 12:05:43 GMT
Joeri, First off... Many thanks for this enormous contribution to the Fusion community. I've not had a chance to try it yet but judging by what Rob says of it, I am sure it sounds good. Regarding Mozape's comment : don't be too hard - I am sure it wasn't intended as you took it. Many of here are working in English as a second language so things sometimes get muddled. Regarding copyright contravention : there is an element of this whenever you sample someone else's samples, even if you have made up the sound yourself using those samples. I totally understand why - the manufacturers spend (literally) £millions recording, editing, optimising and programming their sound library with the intention of recouping those costs though product sales. As a result, they don't take kindly to someone coming along taking it for free. The worst that will probably happen in most cases is for their legal department to issue a 'cease and desist' order (that is assuming they ever find out about the contravention). In your case, you've used a combination of sound sources in your sounds (and avoided using registered tradenames) so I don't anticipate any problems. As for hosting, I would offer but I don't have sufficient bandwidth to handle hundreds of downloads of a 300+MB file. If someone can find a suitable solution, I would be more than happy to support that with announcements as appropriate at the HS website. With regard to Zip vs RAR, Mac users can now unRAR stuff but there was a time when it was unreliable. I imagine most are now on OSX so there shouldn't be a problem. Again, many thanks for the time and effort you have obviously put into this collection. As soon as I get a chance, I will give them a good going over. I am sure they are excellent though and the community owes you one Steve
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Post by jaggeddoctrine on Oct 2, 2007 12:18:23 GMT
I too appreciate your efforts! I just got all the Zips and combined them. I haven't had a chance to move them to the Fusion yet, but will be doing that soon!
To help with downloading, I am uploading the combined zip to some hosting I have. I should be able to handle 500 downloads of the entire set this month without issues.
I'll post the link to the download as soon as it's finished uploading.
Thanks again! Gary
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bazz
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Post by bazz on Oct 2, 2007 13:26:29 GMT
I'll mirror the files when I have them all on my webserver.
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bazz
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Post by bazz on Oct 2, 2007 13:50:48 GMT
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Post by jaggeddoctrine on Oct 2, 2007 14:00:22 GMT
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mozape
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Post by mozape on Oct 2, 2007 16:24:49 GMT
To mozape: "no one should wait..." This kind of comment really pisses me off. Sorry. I searched for a solution for linux, win and mac users and that's creating a uniform zip file and host it where you can dowload for free. I splitted the file in 50 Mb because of people with slower internet connections. But you can't do good for everybody can I? Do you know how much work and time it takes to sample 697 sounds, loop them (and listen to all different loops Seamless looper presents), normalize them, convert them, attach them to different keyboard zones and create patches, listen to the patches again and again and again and tune them? Zipping, splitting and uploading is the easiest part. I'll tell you 50 hours is no exaggeration. Download, wait and unzipping is the only thing YOU have to do. But like I said earlier you don't have to wait if you pay 4,5 Euro to rapidshare. Next time I will host the files on my site www.picaja.be and ask 4,5 Euro. Is that OK for you? I do have to pay for my domain and webspace you know. Or do you want me to upload the files on all existing hosting servers worldwide? My upload amount is limited and slow. For extra Gb's I do have to pay. And finally if you would have started your comment with: Thank you for.... Joeri Mea culpa, mea culpa....Hey, I do appreciate the work that you've done I'm just not a big fan of RapidShare [too many bad experiences]; and MegaUpload seems to be the new kid in town that nobody knows about. Now let's join hands and sing "Kumbaya"......
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