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Post by Hollow Sun on Jul 16, 2007 21:30:33 GMT
My friend, just so happens to own all the rights to those samples and... he owns the company that sells them. I respectfully suggest that it would have been prudent to mention that (ahem) 'small detail'. This forum does not endorse piracy in any shape or form (I and my family have been adversely affected by it too many times ... and still are). Similarly (and thankfully), most members do not endorse or support it either and so it is hardly surprising that one of our senior (and most respected and helpful) members took you to task in the absence of any indication of what was really happening - to all intents and purposes, in your post (which you edited to delete the reference and then pretended to act all innocent and shocked) it looked very much like some dodgy mate of yours was bringing round $10k's worth of copyrighted material for you to plunder illegally. I am glad (and hope) that this is not the case. I'll let it pass this time but to repeat - we do not endorse piracy or copyright violation. Neither do we we do not support "cat and mouse" games (as you put it) or insulting and disparaging remarks towards members, especially one who was trying to help you. You have been warned.
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Post by vykenmax on Jul 17, 2007 1:58:39 GMT
My friend, just so happens to own all the rights to those samples and... he owns the company that sells them. I respectfully suggest that it would have been prudent to mention that (ahem) 'small detail'. This forum does not endorse piracy in any shape or form (I and my family have been adversely affected by it too many times ... and still are). Similarly (and thankfully), most members do not endorse or support it either and so it is hardly surprising that one of our senior (and most respected and helpful) members took you to task in the absence of any indication of what was really happening - to all intents and purposes, in your post (which you edited to delete the reference and then pretended to act all innocent and shocked) it looked very much like some dodgy mate of yours was bringing round $10k's worth of copyrighted material for you to plunder illegally. I am glad (and hope) that this is not the case. I'll let it pass this time but to repeat - we do not endorse piracy or copyright violation. Neither do we we do not support "cat and mouse" games (as you put it) or insulting and disparaging remarks towards members, especially one who was trying to help you. You have been warned. Actually assuming things about someone is a terrible thing to do and that is the same as making insulting and disparaging remarks. No where did I state I was receiving piracy sounds. That is where you and gwenhwyfaer assumed. When I stated that I am receiving sounds, it in fact is coming from a sound designer that I know, that he created. I do not believe I mentioned anywhere that they were sounds of piracy. What sparked all of this off in the first place was at the very bottom of one of gwenhwyfaer's replies. (Reply #9) "Sanity check time: Are you allergic to the buttons on your Fusion...?" That is the same as making insulting and disparaging remarks. But you see, you've kept a person on here that makes such remarks to other fusioneer users from time to time and rightfully, that person should be someone you ban from this site. While on the other hand, if anyone else was to make insulting and disparaging remarks to other users from time to time, you ban them. It's simply not fair. Frankly, by you allowing such a person to continue to make these type of remarks, makes you no better than that person. And since it appears to be alright to assume things, by your standards... It appears that you use this forum to play or act like some kind of ruling God and those that you've become buddy, buddy with, you find it amusing when they make such remarks to others. Otherwise, you'd treat them as an equal to all others you ban. This forum would be a great place if and when someone has a question about the fusion, but it appears that when someone does have such a question, all that can be said is... check out the tutorials and that is it. Well, anybody can do that from the start and if so, why the need for this fusion forum? Another take about this site is nothing but a bunch of over blown egos running rampant, hoping there next prey will come along. When someone points out the truth, instead of admitting to some of the truths, your ego expands, flames and smoke shoot out both your ears and you go mad, by letting your insecure ego get the best of you. That's right, go ahead and ban me from this site. Vykenmax ;D
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Post by guydenruyter on Jul 17, 2007 9:50:36 GMT
Vykenmax, you seem to be a person who is very easily offended and uses insults as a defense mechanism. Gwen is one of the most respected people on this and on the other Fusion forum. Don't play the martyr now, grow up instead. And yes, you DID delete your phrase suggesting that you were going to copy 200Gig of copyrighted samples.
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Post by Failed Muso on Jul 17, 2007 11:11:39 GMT
Actually assuming things about someone is a terrible thing to do and that is the same as making insulting and disparaging remarks. No where did I state I was receiving piracy sounds. That is where you and gwenhwyfaer assumed. When I stated that I am receiving sounds, it in fact is coming from a sound designer that I know, that he created. I do not believe I mentioned anywhere that they were sounds of piracy. What sparked all of this off in the first place was at the very bottom of one of gwenhwyfaer's replies. (Reply #9) "Sanity check time: Are you allergic to the buttons on your Fusion...?" That is the same as making insulting and disparaging remarks. But you see, you've kept a person on here that makes such remarks to other fusioneer users from time to time and rightfully, that person should be someone you ban from this site. While on the other hand, if anyone else was to make insulting and disparaging remarks to other users from time to time, you ban them. It's simply not fair. Frankly, by you allowing such a person to continue to make these type of remarks, makes you no better than that person. And since it appears to be alright to assume things, by your standards... It appears that you use this forum to play or act like some kind of ruling God and those that you've become buddy, buddy with, you find it amusing when they make such remarks to others. Otherwise, you'd treat them as an equal to all others you ban. This forum would be a great place if and when someone has a question about the fusion, but it appears that when someone does have such a question, all that can be said is... check out the tutorials and that is it. Well, anybody can do that from the start and if so, why the need for this fusion forum? Another take about this site is nothing but a bunch of over blown egos running rampant, hoping there next prey will come along. When someone points out the truth, instead of admitting to some of the truths, your ego expands, flames and smoke shoot out both your ears and you go mad, by letting your insecure ego get the best of you. That's right, go ahead and ban me from this site. Vykenmax ;D Dear oh dear, You really should check what you post before pressing submit. The simple fact is, if you don't like what you see here, no-one is holding a gun to your head, forcing you to be here. If you don't like it, go away. Simple, really. As for your post, let's take a look at the facts. You DID make a statement that appeared to imply you were receiving a HD full of copyrighted samples. You were not clear and it was to be expected that many came to the conclusion that you were alluding to an illegal practice. You subsequently deleted the comment, making you look more foolish than anyone else. Gwen's comments were a subtle nod to a previous troll we had on the other Fusion forum who ranted and raved and made wholly irrational statements similar to yours. Gwen might be right, Gwen might be wrong, but you have no grounds on which to vilify him or his posts. Gwen has been one of the most vocal supporters of the Fusion and has made many posts filled with great knowledge and experience that have helped many users. Until you can make such an important contribution to the community, I suggest you pipe down. As most internet trolls do, you criticise the admin's for playing god, when all they simply do is reign in inappropriate behaviour such as yours. Just because you can't have your own way, does not make us evil despots, hell bent on shooting down detractors. If you are pointed towards a tutorial, it's probably because many others have asked the same question so some kind soul has taken the time to commit the knowledge to one place for all to benefit from. If you are too lazy to use this stuff, that's your loss. Why should we do all your hard work for you ? My ego is quite fine, and I'd be more happy if we didn't have trolls like yourself inhabiting the forum and I could sit here and not do any "admin" work at all. As for banning you, I fear that would massage your ego way more than ours, so I will leave that decision to the boss. In the meantime, if you have nothing worthwhile to post, I suggest you don't post at all. Regards, Rob.
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Post by Failed Muso on Jul 17, 2007 11:27:40 GMT
Seeing as the original question in this thread has been dealt with, I have decided to lock it to prevent it descending into a petty bun fight. Any questions, drop me a PM
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