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Post by deweak on Aug 23, 2007 17:18:45 GMT
By default, the monophonic mode retriggers the enveloppes. If you want to have a legato effect, you can set the "polyphony" setting to 1.
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Post by deweak on Aug 23, 2007 18:16:39 GMT
Or it is mono=legato and poly-1=retrigger... I'm not in front of my Fusion to verify.
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Post by Hollow Sun on Aug 23, 2007 18:21:36 GMT
By default, the monophonic mode retriggers the enveloppes. If you want to have a legato effect, you can set the "polyphony" setting to 1. No - the best way is to go to ENVELOPE / SHAPE page. There's a parameter there for envelope re-triggering ON/OFF. Steve
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Post by deweak on Aug 23, 2007 19:13:53 GMT
Well done :-) 2 methods, one result but yours is the best ! I still have lots of things to learn about the Fusion...
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Post by deweak on Aug 24, 2007 17:13:05 GMT
Oops!
I am in front of my Fusion, and there is something strange about this... In the shape mode, you can swith legato on / off but it works in polyphonic mode only : if you play legato, the envelope doesn't retrigger. In monophonic mode, envelopes and samples never retrigger, even if you uncheck the legato function. You do have to be in polyphonic mode with only 1 voice avalaible to simulate a monophonic an retrigger mode.
Did I make a mistake somewhere ?
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Post by gwenhwyfaer on Aug 24, 2007 22:30:59 GMT
Firstly, samples can be switched to retrigger in mono mode. There's a "retrigger in mono mode" parameter on the same page as the rest of the parameters. As you note, they always retrigger in poly mode.
Secondly, the Fusion's retrigger behaviour is slightly strange with envelopes - it appears (and I can't test this right now, and when I could I wasn't able to reach any hard and fast conclusions about it) that what happens is that when a single key is pressed the Fusion allocates the first voice in "monophonic" mode; when that key is released, the Fusion will keep that voice allocated for as long as it determines that the voice can still be heard*; and when a new key is pressed it decides whether or not to reuse the same voice (in mono mode) or allocate a new one (in poly mode). So in mono mode, a legato voice never retriggers, and even non-legato voices might not retrigger if the gap between playing them is too short. The difference between a 1-note polyphonic voice and a monophonic voice is that a new voice is allocated with every keypress in a 1-note poly voice, and the old one is immediately silenced. (Oh, and that crossfade and portamento work differently between the first and second voices allocated, but that's a different topic.)
On the bright side, envelopes can be set to trigger on a wide variety of different events other than key down, and if you're playing a mono patch you almost certainly have a free hand - so you could just assign one of the T buttons to retrigger the envelope... _____ * Indeed, if you're using a sample-based voice, your sample has a 1-sample loop on a non-0 sample, and you have no envelope allocated to the Volume control, the Fusion won't release your sample for the full 30 seconds (or more) that all the other envelopes might last. Some of the drum programs in Hollow Sun 5 act this way; if you set an arp going and then flick to the CPU meter, you can see them build up to about 80 voices used (about 50% of a VEng) before reaching a steady state. It's not a bug; it's a consequence of how the Fusion works - but it is a little odd, and it wouldn't happen were voices statically allocated or hardware-driven.
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