Holding a chord while playing other notes

[froggy54]

Hi Fusioneers,

I'm a newbie and I wonder if it's possible to create a mix with 3 programs splitted on the keyboard (well, I know that it's possible ans easy to do !) and then being able to hold a chord (with S1 or S2 button for example) while playing the other sounds.

Any clues ?

Thank in advance,

Franck

[guydenruyter]

Hi Franck,

1) Splits: sure, no problem: with a Mix or a Song, you can make up to 32 splits
2) Hold a chord: that seems more tricky. Maybe a workaround would work: you create 2 sounds, one 'normal', and one where you adjust the envelope as to work in 'one-shot' mode (I don't know how to do this by heart, but I know it's simple). Then, program the S1 or S2 button, to bring down the volume of one of the sounds and bring up the volume of the other, so in fact using the buttons you switch between the 'normal' and the 'one shot' sound. Bear in mind, though, that your notes will still sound the next time you bring up the sound. Pressing the 'stop' button would reset that.

[xencage]

I think you may be better off (or at least I think this would be a little more flexable) creating a mix/split with several voices, and just have the "chord" program on the bottom 2 or 3 (or 4 or 5) keys of the fusion.
Transpose and layer the "chord" program as necessary (tune the oscillators to 3rd, 5th, 7th, etc (up to 4 per program in your mix) - To get different chord types, you may have to use more than just one "chord" program - a minor on A, a major on G - or whatever

Actually, I just thought of this! ;D Use the Arp to create a "progression" - assign the S1,2 switches to jump from A to B sections of the arp.

Just some early morning Ideas . . .

Let us know what you come up with!

kev

[guydenruyter]

How would that hold the chord using the S-buttons? I think Franck wants a solution for holding the chords, not for creating the chords.

[froggy54]

Thanks a lot for your help ! I created a mix with 3 splitted sounds (that's what I needed in the song, 1 pad, 1 lead and 1 synth fx) and only one sound respond to the hold pedal so I can do with it. But your solution of creating shifted layer of the same sound and using the arp. pattern is valuable and opens new perspective to me. With the modulation matrix to control everything, I should be able to create very rich mixes easy to handle for live performance.

Thanks again,

Franck

[xencage]

How would that hold the chord using the S-buttons? I think Franck wants a solution for holding the chords, not for creating the chords.

Well, my thinking was this:
Using an arp, the A section would be a sustained chord and using the S1 or S2, have the arp change to the B section which could be a different chord or chords, until Franck presses another switch, to change back. Now this wouldn't really help if Franck insists on "holding down" an S1 or S2 switch, but it could lead to other possibilities.

As far as the mix/split option goes, Franck could sacrifice the use of a few keys at the bottom of the board, and assign a mix layer (or two) to just those few keys. That particular program/s could be set up to play whatever chord/s, while his right hand is free to roam about the rest of the board. Considering that Franck designated himself as a "newbie" I just, perhaps rather pretentiously, threw in the information about tuning the different oscillators to different intervals to the different chord tones of the desired chord. Now, true, in this particular situation he wouldn't be holding down the S1 or S2 switches, but perhaps he could adjust, and could free up those switches for other possibilities.

Those solutions or possibilities may not be the direct answer he was looking for, and they certainly are not as complex as yours, but from the perspective of a newbie, which I certainly still consider myself as one, they could present Franck with some options he may not have considered.

kev

[psionic11]

I created a mix with 3 splitted sounds... and only one sound respond to the hold pedal...

Yes, this is the most direct way -- just disable the hold/sustain pedal from all voices in your split-mix, except for the one you want to keep playing your chords using the pedal:

MIX/Part/Controls ==> uncheck the "Sustain Pedal" box.

Do this for all parts in your MIX except the one needed for held chords. Don't forget to STORE!

The other suggestions are nice creative thinking also. I take it you don't want to pre-record your chords, going for a more live situation, eh?

[froggy54]

You're right, for live situation (that means keeping enough freedom in my chord progression to use several voicings) the hold pedal disabled for all sounds but one is a perfect solution in this particular case.
All the other suggestions still lead to creative fields I shall explore soon !

Thanks again for the help.

BTW, I will use my fusion live on the 31st of May (bought it 3 weeks ago). I think I won't need no other keyboard or rack though I'm not overconfident about having only one keyboard on stage.

[xencage]

Right-O'

I was thinking along the lines of triggering a predefined chord at desired times - kinda' like a "one finger" chord thing.

The sustain option for continuing a "played" chord sounds best.

( kev is led quietly down the hall by two big bald guys in white uniforms, and placed in a room with no windows where he is allowed to eat small sticks, dust bunnies, and old banana peels. On Thursdays, he is allowed to count his toes twice and create pictures with glue and rice on cut-up pieces of shoe box cardboard.)

cheers!

kev

[riffbeeper]

Could you set it up to play a C major chord scale?--------C, Dm, Em, F, G, Am, Bdim, C
Or l,- llm,- lllm,- lV,- V,- vim,- Vlldim V(l).
Or with the extensions CMaj7,-Dm7,-Em7,-FMaj7,-Gdom7,-Am7,-Bdim7,- CMaj7(8va).

Also I posted a related question back in Jan-Feb./08. I'll find it and repost it's where abouts.
Thanx

Biffy or Riffy

[riffbeeper]

Sorry Other site. "Re: Is there a way to mimic a Korg M3 feature?" Dec 15 2007 by biff beeper

[riffbeeper]

And on this site Dec. 17/07--- "Is there a way to mimic a korg m3 feature?"