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Post by pesel on Oct 31, 2011 8:49:55 GMT
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Post by parametric on Nov 1, 2011 20:49:57 GMT
Hi pesel, and welcome to the forum . . . .
I also have the 8HD.
I think the problem is that no one is prepared to spend that much and find out it won't work.
The Fusion's controller is known to be a bit pernickety about the particular flavour of IDE it will work with. I think its to do with the various pio modes that various drives support or not.
I'm guessing that any SSD for use with the fusion must support the same spec in this respect - as the existing HD.
The specs published for many SSDs are not very clear on such details - and suppliers seem reluctant to take back drives simply because they will not work with the Fusion - deeming it YOUR responsiblilty to pick the "correct" SSD.
I'm certain if someone DOES find an SSD that works - then the floodgates will open and they will be inundated with orders . . .
Best Regards
parametric
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Post by pesel on Nov 19, 2011 19:25:31 GMT
In the meantime i replaced the 3,5" hd with a silent 2,5" one.
It´s working with a standard ide adapter. ;D
The next and hopefully last thing to get a noiseless Fusion is to replace the PSU fan with a silent one. My idea is to use a bigger, 80, maybe 100mm fan and slow it down. The result should be enough air flow with nearly no noise.
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Post by parametric on Nov 20, 2011 3:08:17 GMT
Yes, that sounds like a good plan. Larger fan, lower rpm moves the same amount of air without the annoying whining noise. The 8HD has more room inside anyway - which is good - as you might be able to get quite creative with the layout. Do let us know if you you are successful - even a description with some pics if poss. That would be a great help to other members having the same problem  Best Regards parametric |
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Post by dysamoria on Jan 3, 2013 21:20:53 GMT
Anyone with any new stories to tell (or photos to show) of excursions along these lines? My Fusion 8HD is less noisy than my Akai S6000 by far (wow that thing is loud; had I the financial flexibility, I know exactly what to replace and with what)... But the fan buzzes after a while and I don't trust the longevity of the hard drive (nor the PSU with the heat hard drives make).
Just as a note for those looking for hardware options: the online stores and communities servicing retro computing often have stuff of use (that's where my Akai parts will be sourced from if I ever put priority to it). Old computers are equally stuck with old tech that is in rare supply. People develop solutions and there's a small market for them.
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Post by Jesse on Mar 17, 2014 16:39:48 GMT
Here is another source for a IDE (PATA) SSD drive link Note the 2.5" drives are true IDE/PATA drives The 3.5" drives are SATA drives with an IDE/PATA to SATA converterThe Mercury Electra™ 3G SSD line features industry leading SandForce® DuraClass™ Technologies: •DuraWrite™ extends the endurance of your Solid State Drive (SSD). •Intelligent Block Management & Wear Leveling automatically distributes data evenly across the entire SSD. •Intelligent Read Disturb Management spreads the active read/write across the flash components eliminating data corruption caused by constant use. •Intelligent "Recycling" for advanced free space management gradually re-writes data across the SSD over time to ensure data never gets corrupted. •RAISE™ (Redundant Array of Independent Silicon Elements) protects the data on your drive similar to having a RAID setup. •Best-in-Class ECC Protection for longest data retention and drive life. Add a technological supercharger to your existing Mac or PC with the Mercury Pro Legacy 3.5" IDE/ATA SSD Internal Drive Kit. It's the fastest, most reliable IDE/ ATA mechanism available to breathe lightning fast performance into that trusty machine and extend its usefulness. Complete Solution For Easy Install In 3.5″ Drive Bays For easy Plug and Play install into standard 3.5″ IDE/ATA drive bays, the Mercury Pro Legacy 3.5" IDE/ATA SSD Internal Drive Kit comes complete with a mounting sled and a SATA to IDE/ATA connector cable. Utilizing the Mercury Pro Legacy 3.5" IDE/ATA SSD Internal Drive Kit as a future upgrade in a SATA bus equipped computer and experiencing the drives true performance potential of up to 285MB/s is a simple matter of removing the connector cable. Better by Design "Mean Time To Failure" - We all know that nothing lasts forever. But that doesn't mean you shouldn't get the most out of your investment. OWC SSD with Durawrite™ Technology, optimizes writes to the flash memory over conventional controllers increasing the overall endurance and reliability of the complete SSD. Highly intelligent block management and wear leveling also extends the overall endurance. With this technology, even MLC-based SSDs can operate for years in demanding use applications without daily write restrictions. This adds up to a MTTF that is higher than most enterprise class hard drives and SSDs on the market today |
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Post by Jesse on Jun 9, 2014 16:09:09 GMT
For a working Fusion SSD solution check out this thread link |
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Post by dysamoria on Feb 10, 2018 5:38:34 GMT
Here is another source for a IDE (PATA) SSD drive link Note the 2.5" drives are true IDE/PATA drives The 3.5" drives are SATA drives with an IDE/PATA to SATA converterThe Mercury Electra™ 3G SSD line features industry leading SandForce® DuraClass™ Technologies: •DuraWrite™ extends the endurance of your Solid State Drive (SSD). •Intelligent Block Management & Wear Leveling automatically distributes data evenly across the entire SSD. •Intelligent Read Disturb Management spreads the active read/write across the flash components eliminating data corruption caused by constant use. •Intelligent "Recycling" for advanced free space management gradually re-writes data across the SSD over time to ensure data never gets corrupted. •RAISE™ (Redundant Array of Independent Silicon Elements) protects the data on your drive similar to having a RAID setup. •Best-in-Class ECC Protection for longest data retention and drive life. Add a technological supercharger to your existing Mac or PC with the Mercury Pro Legacy 3.5" IDE/ATA SSD Internal Drive Kit. It's the fastest, most reliable IDE/ ATA mechanism available to breathe lightning fast performance into that trusty machine and extend its usefulness. Complete Solution For Easy Install In 3.5″ Drive Bays For easy Plug and Play install into standard 3.5″ IDE/ATA drive bays, the Mercury Pro Legacy 3.5" IDE/ATA SSD Internal Drive Kit comes complete with a mounting sled and a SATA to IDE/ATA connector cable. Utilizing the Mercury Pro Legacy 3.5" IDE/ATA SSD Internal Drive Kit as a future upgrade in a SATA bus equipped computer and experiencing the drives true performance potential of up to 285MB/s is a simple matter of removing the connector cable. Better by Design "Mean Time To Failure" - We all know that nothing lasts forever. But that doesn't mean you shouldn't get the most out of your investment. OWC SSD with Durawrite™ Technology, optimizes writes to the flash memory over conventional controllers increasing the overall endurance and reliability of the complete SSD. Highly intelligent block management and wear leveling also extends the overall endurance. With this technology, even MLC-based SSDs can operate for years in demanding use applications without daily write restrictions. This adds up to a MTTF that is higher than most enterprise class hard drives and SSDs on the market today i noticed this kit, too. Has anyone tried these drives from Other World Computing (macsales.com)? |
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Post by parametric on Feb 10, 2018 13:53:31 GMT
Dysmoria,
The problems of attempting to future-proof old kit is two fold . . .
Often, the capabilities of the embedded technology are NOT declared, and secondly, you are often stuck with an older technology implementation, for which, spares/replacements are rapidly disappearing.
e.g 40/80 Gb IDE Hard Drives . . . .
USB2 (rather than 3). USB2 is SO slow, when copying your <Volume> folder to your PC . . . .
Another significant fact is the CF Card. AFAIK, 4GB is the LARGEST the Fusion's OS will handle.
So grab some while you can . . .
With the Fusion, it WAS declared (somewhere) that the disk controller will support up to 120Gb Drives.
Traps for the unwary . . . .
SSDs are freely available, but be wary. Most ALL of them are SATA, and so far, NONE of the available IDE-SATA adaptors have been made to work (so that a SATA SSD can be used).
This is NOT helped by the location of the IDE socket inside the Fusion, located as it is, BETWEEN two PCBs.
So, the best route is to buy IDE SSDs from China (what I did).
I took a chance and sourced 128Gb IDE SSDs. Fortunately, the Fusion is happy with these, but it will format them to 120Gb (as suggested).
Whether it will accommodate Larger SSDs is unknown, but would still be a solution PROVIDED it is happy to format them to 120Gb . . . .
This will become important - as the smaller drives dissappear . . . .
So, if you are planning to go this route, best acquire the IDE SSDs sooner than later.
There's no knowing when the Chinese manufacturers will decide they are unprofitable to make anymore.
I don't know the S6000, but wonder if IT could benefit from an IDE SSD?
ATB
parametric
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Post by dysamoria on Feb 12, 2018 7:43:16 GMT
Yeah, i know, get them now while they're out there... problem is, i'm in poverty. i can barely spend money on anything, let alone stuff i don't absolutely NEED right this moment (and most of that stuff i'm not getting either). As for my Akai S6000: it has an IDE port, but it is well known to be non-functional. i have to get something like this instead: store.inertialcomputing.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=SCSI2SD%2Dv5b%2D0008&CartID=1 |
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