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Post by gwenhwyfaer on Mar 18, 2007 1:10:54 GMT
Just got bitten trying to load in a program that ues a nice big sample set - whilst it'll load fine when I first switch on my Fusion, if I switch to Song mode, switch back, and try to reload it... no joy. Until I realised that the "load last mode only" switch is there for a reason.  When you switch into Song mode, the Fusion will happily load up all the programs used by that song; but when you switch back, it keeps those sounds around, even though you can't actually play them in Program mode. The Fusion does insist on having every current program across all its modes loaded at once. Result? Memory errors that crop up and take you by surprise! Fortunately, that can be solved - just create a song with a single synth (analogue, FM or PM) part, and switch to it before departing Song mode for Program mode. (And because Mix mode behaves the same way, do it there too.) Once done, and no more memory errors. (And no reason to select "load this mode only" either...) (Funnily enough, most of the time the culprit is the Holy Grail Piano - aside from being just about the biggest sample set in the Fusion, it tends to be the default for just about everything...) |
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Post by shaggyclown on Mar 18, 2007 11:50:40 GMT
Thanks for the tip!
You know what the sad part about this is for me?
It's that I don't even use the holy grail.
It causes issues for me when I don't even use the darn thing!
I have better pianos that I have installed.
I am afraid to delete the holy grail however. For I know I will have bigger issues if I do.
Seeing that the default can not be changed.
I am thinking though about replacing the holy grail with a smaller sample. I think if I replace it and name it the same, then things will be better.
I can "to still have the holy grail if I choose to use it later" extract it, rename it, and put it back in a new folder with a different title.
This way instead of loading the big holy grail upon booting up, it will only think it is while it quickly load a tiny fake holy grail instead. And every time I go to choose a new osc. also, when it defaults first to the holy grail, it will also be super fast to load.
How is that for an idea.
Anyone see an issue I may encounter if I do this?
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Post by gwenhwyfaer on Mar 18, 2007 14:00:54 GMT
Yep - you can't. Holy Grail Piano is in ROM, and can't be replaced as a default. Nor can additional tracks or channels be told to default to anything else.
(However, the Fusion will usually load up the last program, song and mix you selected, which will usually be close enough.)
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Post by shaggyclown on Mar 18, 2007 20:36:19 GMT
It seems to go for the biggest to load if you ask me.
Example: When selecting a new osc in program mode. Let's say there was 1 assigned. And I want to add a 2nd.
It is on rom a-1 holy grail. So I start scrolling through the banks to get to the bank I just added via sound fints. Which is at the end. And before that another font bank I added, with a steinway piano "huge, with 6 velocity layers". So as I go through the banks, instead of staying on a-1 of every bank, it jumps around to the larger ones. And no matter where in my piano bank I place the steienway, when I go past that bank, it loadeds that one. So if I am 2 banks before my piano bank, and go down and get it back on a-1 and then back up to bank. And my steinway is 2 banks more on e-2. When I go ahead through the banks and try to pass my piano bank without it loading e-2 it will go from a-1 to e-2 even. And thus I have to wait 10 seconds for the steienway to load. Even if I used another voice in that bank last. No matter where I place that steinway, I can not pass that bank without it having to pause and load it. The fusion instead of going through the banks and staying on a-1 of each will jump around. Thus taking long time to get through my banks to the one I want.
When making a whole bank from fonts, and I go to make some that consist of 2 osc. instead of one., this can be very time consuming.
Now, if it would stay on the same "a-1 of each" and I was to place a quick loading program on a-1 of every bank, then this would scroll right through with no load time.
Almost every time I scroll through my banks it seems to switch bank numbers all the time. Almost like it was programed to be the biggest pain in the butt that it can be.
I wish the locate button trick worked for selecting samples.
As I have so many banks now that it takes about 30 seconds to get through my banks and to the one I have placed all my new samples in. Correct me if I am wrong, but, there seems to be no way to jump directly to the bak of choice when adding a 2nd or 3rd osc in a program.
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Post by Hollow Sun on Mar 18, 2007 21:06:16 GMT
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Post by shaggyclown on Mar 18, 2007 22:42:47 GMT
No. I mean when I am in edit mode in a program. And I wish to add another oscillator. I press synth button, then select. And then add one there. Then If I use the locate trick it changes the whole program to another.
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Post by gwenhwyfaer on Mar 18, 2007 22:53:09 GMT
Ah - you have to highlight the current sample selection and then press Locate+Inc, otherwise the Fusion doesn't know that you want to use it as an editing shortcut.
(You can either go into Synth / Osc / Select / Multisample and press Loc+Inc, or select 'Osc Multisample' from the summary screen, cursor down to an oscillator and press Loc+Inc.)
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Post by shaggyclown on Mar 18, 2007 23:04:34 GMT
hmmm, I thought that is what I did. But I just tried it and it worked. Cool!!!
I must have done something wrong.
Man! All the time I wasted. I thought it didn't work for osc select!
Well aint that sweet! Nice!
Thanks!
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When you switch into Song mode, the Fusion will happily load up all the programs used by that song; but when you switch back, it keeps those sounds around, even though you can't actually play them in Program mode. The Fusion does insist on having every current program across all its modes loaded at once. Result? Memory errors that crop up and take you by surprise!
