stereo output?

[Traboukos]

Hi everyone, I am trying to export a STEREO track from fusion to the PC. My PC has a terratec aureon 5.1 and i use cubase sx3, (check the image for the input options) --> sounden.terratec.net/index.php?module=My_eGallery&do=showpic&pid=359&orderby=titleA
Is there any possibility to export a stereo track using this sound card without changing the stereo to mono? I am also trying the digital output, but "cubase" just crashes when i change the "line in" option to "SPDIF" :S. If anyone knows how to do that please let me know.
Thank you very much.

[deweak]

In the Fusion's sequencer, audio tracks are mono. If you want to record the synth's main output as a stereo track in Cubase, you have to configure the software, not the Fusion.

[Traboukos]

Yes, let me be a little bit more specific of what i wanna do. If you tweak the "pan" of the tracks (not just the audio tracks) in the sequencer you get some "...%" of the left speaker and the rest "...%" through the right speaker. Now, is there any possibility with the gear i mentioned i own, to have that recorded at the PC, with the same panning? Forget about cubase, i may use any other software to do that. I don't believe that I will be able to do that with the sound card I own at the moment, but i may do that using the digital output. Does anyone knows how to record using the digital output? And what gear does he use to do that (I mean software and sound card). Thanks

P.s. Please excuse me for the not so good english, I'm from Greece

[deweak]

I'm from France, your English is ok for me :-)

I don't understand where your problem is. When you connect the Fusion's main outputs in two inputs of your soundcard, each output recieves the right signal balance. In the software, you can record two separated tracks and pan them fully left and fully right, or just a stereo track with those two inputs as left and right channels.

[Traboukos]

Thanks Deweak for the reply and the sweet comment about my English

Check the sound card again, sounden.terratec.net/index.php?module=My_eGallery&do=showpic&pid=359&orderby=titleA
sounden.terratec.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=374
The green connections are outputs, so i care only for the pink and blue external connections (both inputs). The pink one is the "mic" and the blue one is the "line in". The line in is "stereo" input, the mic is "mono" input. So the only analog way i guess is the "line in". I have now two cables from the fusion (left/right) that must go into one input, the "line in". A cable adapter, probably would do the job... maybe a cable adapter with "Two Stereo 1/4" Females to One mini Stereo Male" (depends on the cables that i will use). I have tried one adapter which didn't work but i don't remember if was stereo or mono :/. The recording was "mono"... Anyway except that, the quality loss through the adapter was huge
So, now I think that the only way is the digital way... or another way that i don't know. I have tried to connect the ADAT output from the fusion at the sound cards "Digital input, optical, 44.1 kHz, 48 kHz (TOS link)". But the cubase crashes when I change the recording options to SPDIF :S
Anyway, i understand that is very difficult to understand what i mean if you don't see it, so don't bother, sooner or later i'll manage to find a way. But, if anyone wants to propose something that works for him, please be my guest

[psionic11]

Have you tried connecting L/R output of the Fusion into its own multi-track input?

Record the song onto tracks 1 & 2 of the Fusion's hard disk, then EXPORT these two tracks as .WAV files (track 1 = left, track 2 = right). Then you can just use your PC to browse to your Fusion's hard drive and directly copy those wave files into whatever program you choose.

SONG/Utility/Track Utility ==> EXPORT (page 169 of the English PDF manual)

[Traboukos]

Very smart notice "psionic11", thanks u shared this with us. I can't try it at the moment because I'm very far from my fusion. I'll give it a try as soon as possible. But I have an objection about this option. If I have already in use all (8) audio tracks, am I still gonna be able to record the song onto fusion 2 audio tracks? Maybe I'm saying bullshit and the solution is very obvious, I have to check it when I'll go back home in a couple of weeks.

*Something for the record*
I was asking about this matter some guys that are professionals in sound engineering, they told me that the reason the digital output wasn't working for me is that Fusion has output (ADAT & SPDIF) and my sound card (terratec aureon 5.1) has optical and these are two different protocols of digital signal. I don't know i this is true but it seems like a logical exlanation.

[psionic11]

If you already have 8 tracks full, you can just export any two tracks into WAV files onto the hard drive, then erase them. Now you have two open tracks. Actually, you can do this unlimited times, and to any folder on the Fusion and/or the PC, so it's like the Fusion has unlimited tracks... (I'm also guessing that if you REALLY want to stretch it, you could use the 2 sampling inputs as *short* audio tracks as well, so you sort of have 10 track recording on the Fusion )

You know, there is another way to get audio into the PC that is popular among those who use software DAWs... use a USB audio interface. These come in many different varieties --

Alesis M1 active 320 <== audio interface + speakers

Line6 TonePort GX USB <== audio interface + guitar FX

Novation Nio 2/4 <== 2-in 4-out audio interface

Novation X-station <== audio interface + synth

These are just off the top of my head, but I'm sure others here know a very cheap, basic audio interface also.

[Traboukos]

The alesis M1 active 320 looks fine, of course the result is unknown until you try it. Damn I just bought the stupid terattec sound card and is completely useless . Anyway I guess if you don't pay more you can't improve your music production even if your skills are improved. I'll probably use an AKAI recorder with CD burner which a friend of mine owns at the moment and in a later time I'll change this sound card with something better. Thanks for the replies take care.

[deweak]

The optical output of the Fusion tansmits ADAT data (8-channels) and the optical input of your soundcard accepts only S/PDIF signal (2-channels). So you're right, it can't work since the formats are different. You could purchase a coaxial -> optical converter in order to use the Fusion's coaxial S/PDIF output with your soundcard's otpical input (I have a Fostex COP-1 for this task).

If you want to work in the analog world, you just have to get a 2 mono jacks - > 1 stereo minijack for a direct connection of you Fusion into your soundcard's line input.

BUT you'd be happier with a real "home-studio" soundcard :-)