picaja
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Post by picaja on Sept 30, 2007 7:13:26 GMT
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Post by Failed Muso on Sept 30, 2007 20:40:47 GMT
Many, many thanks for these sounds At last, a serious and large collection of user created sounds with good programming. It's people like you that keep Fusion current and alive. I'm working my way through the bank now and there are some really good programs in here My only criticism so far ? I hate Rapidshare with a passion !! LOL But, I understand why many people use it. This is a large bank and would cripple many low cost of free web hosting solutions, so I am aware of why you used it. I applaud your splitting of the files. The "join up" program was a breeze to use. I just wish we could all have access to decent hosting with reasonable bandwidth, especially in this day and age of hi speed DSL. But that's all I have found to moan about so far and it is in no way a personal criticism Top marks to you and may you continue to deliver this kind of material
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Post by Failed Muso on Oct 1, 2007 9:51:15 GMT
Well, I'm now going through a second pass off these sounds and I am even more impressed than last night ! Tell me, is this your first real attempt at this kind of thing ? Your use of the mod matrix and aftertouch is excellent. It's clear to see that time has been spent on each of these programs. You may want to go through the bank and change the Category of each program to a more appropriate setting, just to make things easier for those who search by that method. I spoke to Steve last night and he is very happy to see ordinary users creating such good quality banks for the community. Although he hasn't downloaded the sounds as yet, I told him of the name check you gave him in Program 105 So, whilst the geeks amongst us here are bickering over who made the White Noise album and whether it contained vocals or not (??), I am sat here enjoying the fruits of your labour. And what juicy fruits they are !! ;D ;D ;D C'mon guys, get these sounds and give this guy some credit (especially a donation...these are worth $50 of anybody's money !!)
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Post by gwenhwyfaer on Oct 1, 2007 12:49:15 GMT
I tried to get them last night - unfortunately I'm on an ADSL plan which only allows me unmetered downloads between midnight and 8am. I'd still have been able to get the whole lot, of course, but when I tried to grab the second chunk I was told "wait two hours and try again"... and a need to sleep intervened (especially since I'd just come back from seeing Seabound). Even then, I could have automated the downloads... were it anyone else but rapidshare... And of course, it's not that I could actually use the patches if I had got them down, because my Fusion's still in Aldershot... I'm actually really, REALLY looking forward to trying the patches, too, especially given Rob's praise of them. Thinking about it, though, I was recently looking around American hosting solutions, and some of them are ridiculously cheap, with ludicrously high stats ($2.95pm for 24 months for 300Gb space and 3Tb/m bandwidth usage, anyone...?) - maybe it's worth investing in one of these, as a community, so that we have somewhere decent to plonk down great big banks of sounds like this one? (And maybe even move the forum there too... hmm - do proboards allow you to export forum archives in any sane format? ...No, they make a point of not doing; never mind then.)
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bazz
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Post by bazz on Oct 1, 2007 13:11:09 GMT
or let's make a bittorrent tracker, I'm sure that there are a lot of people with unmetered up/download..
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mozape
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Post by mozape on Oct 1, 2007 13:25:54 GMT
Better still, use MegaUpload.com which allows sizes up to 500mb.
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Post by jaggeddoctrine on Oct 1, 2007 17:38:33 GMT
It would be nice if we had 7 people who could host one file each.
I might be able to host the files as long as I didn't have 200 downloads for each file hit at once!
(I'm still slowly waiting for the files).. another 100 minutes and I could download #3
Gary
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jiffy
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Post by jiffy on Oct 1, 2007 18:00:01 GMT
I just tried to download #6, and was told there were too many users download at the moment, try again later!
Bit of a pain, but I'm sure, from what Roberto said, that it will be worth the wait/hassle.
Good on you picaja, for taking the time and effort to give us these sounds.
Thanks,
Paul
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Post by Failed Muso on Oct 1, 2007 18:19:12 GMT
It would be nice if we had 7 people who could host one file each. I might be able to host the files as long as I didn't have 200 downloads for each file hit at once! (I'm still slowly waiting for the files).. another 100 minutes and I could download #3 Gary My tip for using Rapidshare is to change your IP address after downloading each segment. I just go into my router settings, disconnect my session and log back in. This assigns me a new dynamic IP address and Rapidshare thinks I'm someone different, therefore allowing me to instantly download the next segment. However, as Mozape says, Megaupload do max 500MB downloads so that might be an option. Both Steve and I have webspace, but we have nowhere near enough to host this kind of file size without incurring lots of costs BitTorrents are a good idea, as is any legitimate P2P facility. Having our own webspace would be cool. Worth investigating. Whatever, just get these excellent sounds !!
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Post by jaggeddoctrine on Oct 1, 2007 18:40:29 GMT
Yeah.. I tried the ipconfig trick to reassign my ip and then cleared my cookies as well..and to my surprise, it didn't work! Maybe I'll look to host these files for a few days and monitor the bandwidth to make sure I don't blow it Gary
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picaja
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Post by picaja on Oct 1, 2007 19:06:51 GMT
Thanks to all, Roberto, to be honest not all programs are made from scratch. My dad once told me" Do not recreate what has already been created and is already good or even perfect". So a lot are internal or steve's programs ;D I tweaked, adjusted so you must thank Steve. It's like programming in VBA: do not create a code that already exists, find it on the net try to understand and adjust or implement it to your needs. Sorry if many of you hate rapidshare but I like it. C'mon guys, don't complain it's free! The Sounds are free! You just have to wait between the downloads. No spam, No registration, No pop ups,... You can always become a 48 hour premium user for 4,5 Euro so no more waiting. And no, I'm not working for rapidshare but most of other hosting solutions have bad download speeds (I download at 2 Mb/sec with cablemodem on rapidshare) and lots of pop ups. I hate this. If there is one thing I really want it's a perfect Polymoog keyboard "vox humana sound" on the fusion. I just love that sound. Anyone here on the forum with a polymoog keyboard? One sound I created and really love is the "Digital Sustain Bass" because it's sounding huge and clean. All others are just OK I think. Strange that the 'Howell' patch is number 105. On my fusion it's 63 and half work was done. At that time I thought ' Well Mr Howell, how many hours/days have you programmed on all hollow banks' ? It has been a lot of work as I sampled/looped all samples and I hope others will follow to make the fusion even better as it is. Thanks, Joeri
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Post by bluesplayer on Oct 1, 2007 19:38:34 GMT
That's what I did (it $6.59 - dollars for two days so I just did that)
Only question I have, and after all your hard work do not take this wrong, are there any copyright issues here with the samples that is?
I know you aren't selling these. But you can't give them (samples) away either if they are from commercial libraries with out permission from owner.
Hate to be wet blanket here but…
Larry
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picaja
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Post by picaja on Oct 1, 2007 20:46:19 GMT
I don't think so. Some sounds are waldorf microwave 2 (Synth FX+pads+guitarsounds), alesis S4 (organs from the sanctuary card as far as I remember), gem S2 (don't remember which patches) , ensoniq sqr (different) ,Korg EX8000 for analogish sounds... Patch 01 "90's NumanChoir" is for example a korg M1 sound I programmed myself and no preset. A few are rolands like the 'Vstreams Vox Numana' which I sampled and programmed myself on two Synths and combined them. It took me hours (even days) just to program that sound. I can say these are mine and if anyone should make money out of this bank he is doing something illegal. Some sounds are layered programs between different synths. I had a crash on the disk where I stored the wave files without the possibility to recover the files. I named them gem_xxx_C1 for example and renamed them afterwards when converting with fusionconverter. Now I don't have the original looped waves so I can't even use them on my fantomx. . I have 12 synths(modules), 1000's of patches so I can't remember which I sampled. If there would be any problem concerning copyright issues I will remove them immediately! I don't want to get into trouble for giving sounds away for free. I hope you understand. Like I said, I don't think so but if layering edited sounds is a copyright issue my answer is yes and I should remove them.
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Post by bluesplayer on Oct 1, 2007 23:56:55 GMT
Again – I wasn’t saying there were issues or you did anything wrong I was just checking. Hopefully you can appreciate my asking.
I also love some of the patches – but only gave the entire bank a quick “go through” I’m on the road most of this week so I have to get back home to really “scrutinize” but it was wonderful work on first go through.
Larry
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Post by gwenhwyfaer on Oct 2, 2007 0:43:05 GMT
Frankly, as far as I can tell, any recording of a synth whose oscillators play back samples might fall under the synth manufacturer's copyright - in other words, if Roland decided it wanted to claim a royalty from every record using an XV5080 patch, the only thing stopping them would be promissory estoppel, especially now that Bridgeport v Dimension has killed off de minimis - well, that and the fact they would never sell another synth ever again. It would certainly kill off the ROMpler market once and for all... which might not be a bad thing but would leave a lot of musicians very pissed off. Fair use might also be a defence, but (a) there is no easy way to distinguish a sound recording made as part of a record and a sound recording made as raw material for an oscillator; (b) consequently, a sample used in a patch that makes it sound very different might be safer in fair use terms than a record using Digital Native Dance as its rhythm track; (c) the defendant has to prove fair use (cf. Campbell v Acuff-Rose); and (d) some jurisdictions (eg. England) have no legal concept of fair use anyway. (I'm not a lawyer, this ain't advice, etc.)
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